p. 15 | Review and Herald, Vol. 35, No. 2. (1/4/1870)

Earlier text: The Order of Events in the Judgment

From Sr. Camp.

By Irena G. Camp

DEAR BRETHREN AND SISTERS: My heart has often been cheered and strengthened by reading letters from the scattered, lonely ones, the spirit of which speaks forth the work of the Lord wrought in their hearts, for which I feel to give thanks to his name, and plead for a perfection of the work, both in their hearts and my own, that we may be prepared to meet where there will be no lonely ones, but all will be there. I feel very unworthy to be numbered with the dear saints, but I often sigh for their society here, and for the privilege of meeting with them to worship God where the truth is preached in its purity. A number of months have passed since I enjoyed such a privilege. The last was at Braintree, when Bro. Hutchins was there. The sweet, tender, melting Spirit of the Lord was there, even before the meeting commenced, cementing the hearts of God's people together as the heart of one man. We truly felt it was good to be there. And the speakers seemed to come right down to the wants of the people. I came home strengthened to endure, if need be, greater trials, feeling that I had given all for Christ and the kingdom.

I have seen some trials; but they are only light afflictions and but for a moment, when compared with the far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory. I feel that the mercies of the Lord have been great. I have enjoyed the blessedness of feeling that another of my dear children has given her heart to the Lord, and embraced the present truth in all its bearings. I can say in the language of the apostle, “I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.” As soon as she made up her mind that she would serve the Lord at the loss of all things, the way was opened for her to go right amongst a company of Sabbath-keepers, where she could have the privilege of attending meeting; and I trust she has found fathers and mothers in Israel, brothers and sisters, and a dear companion to help her in the way to the kingdom. May the blessing of the Lord rest upon them. May God help us all to be meek and humble. Oh! that self might be laid low, and God be exalted and honored by us in all things, and we be fitted to praise him in his kingdom.

Yours in hope. IRENA G. CAMP.

Windsor Co., Vt.

H. S. ZOLLER

By H. S. Zoller

From Sr. Zoller.

I CAN testify to the people of God that I have an evidence of the power of present truth to alienate the affections from those things which belong exclusively to the world. Through the ministry of Brn. Steward and Blanchard, in August, 1868, I first heard the message of “to-day.” And I find that since I began to understand it, nothing has ever been half so precious to my heart. I love it. There is magic in it. It must be from Heaven. It makes Christ a thousand times more real to my mind.

I hope to go on in the work of self-examination and heart-cleansing until I hear my Saviour say, “Well done.”

H. S. ZOLLER

Marquette Co., Wis.

MARTHA A. GREEN

By Martha A. Green

From Sister Green.

DEAR BRETHREN AND SISTERS: Since I cannot meet with any of you often to speak of the goodness of God, I want to say, that I have been led of late to the work of searching up my sins and confessing them before God, and I believe that the blessed Jesus is leading me nearer to himself, the great fountain of life. When I look over my past life and see how he has led me in a way that I thought not of, it seems that I ought, of all others, to be the most thankful. I would thank the Lord that he ever sent me the knowledge of present truth. Oh! that the truth may do its entire and perfect work upon my heart and life. Truly, it is a great thing to be a Christian. How much we need to watch, and pray “Cleanse Thou me from secret faults,” and prepare me to stand upon the sea of glass with the overcomers.

MARTHA A. GREEN

Obituary Notices.

By R. F. C.

Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth.

DEATH has entered our circle. Our family chain of ten links is broken. The blow fell upon the fifth link, Sr. C. K. Rogers, of Wisconsin, a notice of whose death was published in the Review, of April 9, 1869, aged 60; the first being 70, and the tenth 47. Our parents have both been gone fifteen years. They both lived to see their youngest 30 years of age, their oldest 53. They taught us to fear God and keep his commandments, and to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, who died for sinners.

Our departed sister, it is hoped, sleeps in Jesus. If so, soon to awake and be forever with the Lord. Will our chain be entire, no link wanting, in the world to come? I fear not. We have all, at some time, professed our faith in Christ, and all, I believe, have been buried in the likeness of his death. But we have lived too much for self and the present world. Some have departed from right parental instruction and the holy commandment of God. One is a skeptic, if not a confirmed infidel. Others are skeptical concerning present truth. Disobedience and unbelief are twin brothers. They go hand in hand. And must our chain be severed by the second death, no more to be united? Have I done my duty to have it preserved? O God! it will be a miracle of mercy, if one so unworthy can be saved. R. F. C.

MISCELLANEOUS.

Michigan Central Railroad.

GOING WEST.

LEAVES.	MAIL.	DAY EXP.	EVE. EXP.	NIGHT EX.
Detroit,	7:50 A.M.	11:00 A.M.	5:35 P.M.	10:00 P.M.
Battle Creek,	1:45 P.M.	3:48 P.M.	11:15 P.M.	2:37 A.M.
Chicago, Arrive,	8:50 P.M.	10:00 P.M.	6:30 A.M.	9:00 A.M.

GOING EAST.

	MAIL.	DAY EXP.	EVE. EXP.	NIGHT EX.
Chicago,	5:00 A.M.	8:00 A.M.	4:45 P.M.	9:00 P.M.
Battle Creek,	11:58 A.M.	1:45 P.M.	11:15 P.M.	3:20 A.M.
Detroit, Arrive,	5:50 P.M.	6:20 P.M.	3:40 A.M.	8:20 A.M.

THESE trains all run by Chicago time, which is fifteen minutes slower than Detroit time.

Notice.

By G. W. COLCORD

To the brethren and sisters in general: Look in your Hymn Book, on pages 13 and 21, hymns 16 and 32, and see whether said hymns are marked correctly. If they are marked, “C. M.” (which is true of those in possession of brethren in this place), they are incorrectly marked. They should have “L. M.” as their meter sign. Erase the “C” and place in its stead an “L,” and all is right. G. W. COLCORD.

Postal Address Changes

The P. O. address of Eld. I. D. Van Horn and A. O. Burrill will be Castalia, Erie Co., Ohio, till further notice.

The P. O. address of Ira Abbey is changed to North Brookfield, Madison Co., N. Y.

The Peninsular Railway.

By L. D. Dibble

Until otherwise ordered, trains will be run as follows:

	A.M.	P.M.		A.M.	P.M.
Leave Battle Creek,	6:15	2:15	Leave Bellevue,	9:50	5:30
Arrive Bellevue,	7:00	3:00	Arrive Battle Creek,	10:30	6:10

All trains will stop at Verona, Penfield and Madison's. No Sunday trains.

L. D. DIBBLE, President and General Superintendent.

Critique of the Prophetic Chronology Diagram

By James Perrin

JAMES PERRIN: We send you the Discussion. Price 20 cts. Your diagram is received. It is self-contradictory, as you will see if you will regard what follows: 1. Your diagram ends the 6000 years in 1843. But your reckoning, which is appended, makes that period end in 1872. 2. Your diagram makes the 2300 years end in 1843. But your figuring extends them to 1875. You also say that the redeemed will have access to the tree of life and enter into the city in 1872. But you contradict this by saying that the resurrection will take place in 1875, at least, that of Daniel you place at that date. Now will you say that the saints are to enter the holy city three years before their resurrection? or will you say that Daniel is resurrected three years after the rest of the saints? One of these two positions you must take, and either is absurd, as you will see. 3. Again, your diagram makes it to be 1872 years from the offering up of Isaac (Gen. 22) to the crucifixion of Christ. But Usher's chronology makes it 1872 years to the birth of Christ. If Usher were correct, your period of 1872 would reach, not to Christ's crucifixion, but simply to his birth. That is to say, it falls short over 30 years of reaching his crucifixion. But that is not all. You use Usher's chronology as if it were too long by 30 years; but in your remarks appended to your diagram, you show that his chronology from Abraham to the birth of Christ is too short by 124. Such remarkable inaccuracies should cause you to re-consider the matter. 4. Your diagram has a period of 1868 years to span the period from the birth of Christ to the year 1875! Here is an error in your diagram of 7 years. 5. You date the 70 weeks at the going forth of the decree recorded in Ezra 7. This has been proved by incontestable evidence to have been B. C. 457. You have the 70 weeks expire at the crucifixion. But the words of the angel require this event to be placed in the midst of the seventieth week. Dan. 9: 27. 6. In your diagram you rightly date the 2300 days from the starting point of the 70 weeks, for they are cut off from that long period, as the literal translation of Dan. 9: 24 clearly indicates. But in your explanation of your diagram, you deny all this by dating the 2300 years in A. D. 426. So that the key given us to the reckoning of the 2300 days by the explanation of the angel, in Dan. 9, is by yourself in one place virtually admitted, and in the other fully denied. These reasons are quite sufficient for respectfully declining to insert your diagram.

A Minister Requested in Cumberland

BRO. W. A. DOYAL, noticing the call of Bro. Kittle, of Illinois, for a minister, says he lives in Cumberland, an adjoining county, and desires, if any respond to the above call, that they will call on him also.

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DEDICATION

By Gen. Conf. Com.

The new house of worship at Abingdon will be ready for dedication about the middle of this month. It is therefore thought best to appoint a general meeting, Jan. 15 and 16, with dedicatory services on the latter day. Providence permitting, Brn. Waggoner and Bates will attend. GEN. CONF. COM.

Good Confessions.

By Dudley Marvin Canright

It is often asserted that reason and philosophy can prove the immortality of the soul. But this is not true, as many of the ablest advocates of that doctrine have candidly confessed. Watson makes this admission: “There is no indubitable declaration of man’s immortality, nor any facts and principles so obvious as to enable us confidently to infer it. All observation lies directly against the doctrine of the immortality of man.” Theol. Inst. Vol. I. p. 11. Dr. Taylor agrees with him thus: “Whatever the metaphysical nature, essence, or substance of the soul may be, which is altogether unknown to us, all arguments for the natural immortality of the soul, taken from the nature of its substance or essence, are manifestly vain; we can never prove that the soul of man is of such a nature that it can and must exist and live, think and act, separate from, and independent of, the body; all our present experience shows the contrary.” Quoted in Balfour’s Essays, Es. I, p. 114. These are good confessions on this point.

D. M. CANRIGHT.

Appointments.

And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

THE next Monthly Meeting of the churches in northern Maine will be held at Cornville, Jan. 15 and 16. Per order of the Committee. GEO. W. BARKER.

PROVIDENCE permitting, I will meet with the churches of Saginaw County at their Quarterly Meeting, Jan. 8, 9; May, 15, 16.

If thought best by Bro. Marsh, I will go with him to Sixteen between the above appointments, or at such a time as he may think best. J. BYINGTON.

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Not Slothful in Business. Rom. xii, 11.

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Cash Received on Account.

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Michigan Conference Fund.

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Books Sent by Express.

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Received on Book and Tract Fund.

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Foreign Missionary Fund.

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Michigan Tent and Ceresco Camp-meeting Expenses.

Russell Hoag $5.00.

The Bible Repository

The Bible Repository.—This is the title of a monthly magazine published by Eld. Rufus Wendell, Salem, Mass. Its terms are $1.00 per year. It is devoted principally to the discussion of the nature and destiny of man. Its editor holds to the non-resurrection of the wicked, as he intimates from time to time. With this sentiment we do not agree. But with the principal teachings of the Repository we are in harmony. That men must seek immortality, or finally cease to live, seems to us one of the clearest truths of revelation. But we think that wicked men are exposed to the sentence of death at the judgment, and to its certain execution unless they do now turn from their sins. If we rightly understand Bro. Wendell, he thinks the sentence of the judgment to be that they “remain under the power of death. Hitherto the Repository has not entered into the reasons of this position to any extent, but has devoted itself principally to the fact that man has not immortality in his nature. The Repository shows that several distinguished Methodist ministers are taking their stand against the doctrine of natural immortality. This magazine is conducted with ability and candor, and is almost faultless in mechanical execution. We commend to Bro. Wendell’s notice the work of Bro. Waggoner, now going through the press, entitled, “A Vindication of the Doctrine of the Resurrection of the Unjust.”

Vick's Illustrated Catalogue and Floral Guide for 1870.

We have just received from the publisher, James Vick, Rochester, N. Y., this valuable work. All the lovers of beautiful flowers are interested in this publication. Mr. Vick has a national reputation for furnishing genuine seeds, and, indeed, for square, honest dealing. His catalogue is a pleasant work to turn over, so filled is it with every beautiful flower. In addition to his flower seeds, he offers also the seeds of every kind of valuable vegetable. Send to him ten cents, and receive in return his Illustrated Catalogue.

Personal

PERSONAL.—The friends of Sr. White will be happy to learn that her courage and cheerfulness were never greater than during the present winter. The bitter words and wicked slanders so freely used against her have been powerless to disturb her peace of mind. After the excessive labors of the past, a season of comparative quiet seems, in the providence of God, to be very necessary for the restoration of her strength with a view to future labors in the cause of God.

The New Year

The record of the past year is made up. We cannot change that record in the smallest particular. But the record of the new year is as yet a blank. It is in our power to have that record such as we shall be willing to meet in the judgment. Let the first things recorded of us in the new year be the act of unreserved submission of our whole being to God. Let the next be that of the deepest repentance for the sins and errors of the year past. Then let us live moment by moment in humble, active obedience to God. Thus shall we make a record which we shall meet with holy triumph at the last day. To many of us, this will be the last year of life. Who of us shall have our houses set in order, and be ourselves prepared for the close of our pilgrimage should we meet that event the present year?